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Friday, May 18, 2012

May 18, 2012 - Morning Headlines

- New forensic documents, including one that showed Trayvon Martin had THC in his system, and others that showed the Sanford police said the shooting was "ultimately avoidable" have been released (CNN):

- An arrest has been made in the recent Mississippi highway killings case (CNN):

- Plans have been canceled by a wealthy conservative to air T.V. ads linking Obama to Reverend Jeremiah Wright. Most republicans, including Mitt Romney, resoundingly rejected these ads (Fox News):

- Members of the "G-8" are meeting in near Washington D.C. today (Yahoo!):

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  1. Good morning all, happy Fridays.

    Article of the morning for me:

    Extremists taking over a party on either (and both) sides of the isle are disastrous to our nation's progress and health, and if you don’t believe it for the obvious reasons just look to the historical examples in it leading to the risings of Nazi Germany, Communist Russia, etc.

    Whether you agree with the other side on everything or not, there’s not a single good example in history of driving out moderates and the desire/will to compromise.

    Vilifying and smearing the other side and/or those that would attempt to compromise with them in an attempt to get your way is never anything more than a childish, manipulative distraction from discussing the cold hard facts.

    I’m pointing fingers at both sides here, and I could care less to argue over who does it more or on what issues as that merely continues exactly what I’m speaking against; it’s just got to stop.

    1. RKen - good morning and Happy Friday!

      Don't have much time, but I indeed can see the point. Compromise was the intent of the founders. I really believe this. It was supposed to be: you have your side, I have my side. I don't get all what I want; you don't get all you want. We shape the final product to be a mix of the two. It appears that yes, both sides are not following this. The "I will veto anything" and the "it's dead on arrival when it comes to our chamber" is, in my opinion, very prohibitive to our compromise-based democratic process. :-)

    2. How do you compromise with, "We don't like your budget but we don't have one of our own"? Where do you find middle ground in that?

    3. I’m assuming you’re not counting Obama’s budget because it didn’t have approval from Democrats, but Democrats did propose budgets even not counting that.

      And even if they didn't, you compromise with "We don't like your budget but have none of our own" by proposing a budget that compromises on the issues. The Paul Ryan budget was not a compromise or anything close to it by any means whatsoever. And correct me if wrong, but the GOP did not stand behind any budget other than the Paul Ryan plan.

    4. RKEn, if my memory serves me correct the last two budgets that 0bama has sent to the SENATE he has received a total of ZERO two separate votes.

      Actually, RKen I started to say, ""We don't like your budget but we don't have one of our own and we don't like 0bama's" but I thought that me be piling on a little.

      Your first link in a bunch of Republicans calling Reid out to finally produce a budget.

      The following 3 paragraphs are from:

      Passing a yearly budget for the federal government is a fundamental responsibility of Congress. Lawmakers do not have to spend their time naming post offices or passing health care reform. But they do have to pass a budget. In 2010, neither the House nor the Senate did so. It’s not that members just didn’t get around to it, which would have been scandalous enough. No, Reid and then-Speaker Nancy Pelosi feared that passing a budget would hurt their chances in the November midterm elections. So they did nothing and took a beating at the polls anyway.

      Now Pelosi is out of the picture. But Reid is still at it. The Republican-controlled House has passed a budget, but Reid will not produce a Democratic spending proposal. And if Reid doesn’t want to pass a budget, then a budget won’t be passed; the majority leader controls what is and what is not considered in the Senate.

      “There’s no need to have a Democratic budget, in my opinion,” Reid told the Los Angeles Times last week. “It would be foolish for us to do a budget at this stage.” Instead, Reid wants to wait to see if the deficit-reduction meetings led by Vice President Biden bear any fruit. Before that, Reid wanted to wait for the Gang of Six — now nearly defunct — to come up with something.

      And this is from Wednesday:

      The Senate on Wednesday rejected every single budget being offered this year, leaving the chamber — and therefore the federal government — without a plan to address Medicare, Social Security and the other major entitlement programs that are driving deficits and debt.

      In repeated votes, Democrats who control the chamber defeated four Republican proposals, including a plan that passed the House in March. The entire Senate also unanimously rejected President Obama’s 2013 budget, voting 99-0 against it, following a 414-0 vote against it in the House earlier this year.

      “A stunning development for the president of the United States in his fourth year in office,” said Sen. Jeff Sessions, Alabama Republican.

      Congress is required by law to pass a budget by April 15, then write the annual spending and tax laws to carry out the budget’s targets.

      But for the third straight year, Democrats didn’t offer a plan of their own in the Senate. The last time it did pass one was in 2009, when Democrats controlled all the levers and wrote the measure that paved the way for them to pass Mr. Obama’s health care law.

  2. Long time no post!

    I just want to go on the record, for all those that complain about the "Bush era tax cuts" (most people that complain about them cite them often, but know absolutely nothing about them) and how they helped only the rich, I submit this: